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		By: Adam Hardy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam Hardy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The fat duck didn&#039;t poison it&#039;s customers. It was because of the noroviris that made it&#039;s way into the kitchens (not salmonella or any lapse in cooking preparations).

I&#039;ve eaten at the fat duck and the quality of food received was second to none.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fat duck didn&#8217;t poison it&#8217;s customers. It was because of the noroviris that made it&#8217;s way into the kitchens (not salmonella or any lapse in cooking preparations).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve eaten at the fat duck and the quality of food received was second to none.</p>
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		By: Daniel Young		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Young]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 12:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://youngandfoodish.com/my-confidence-cracked-in-the-bistro-du-vin-burger/#comment-1517&quot;&gt;Greg&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for the report, Greg. That&#039;s happy news.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://youngandfoodish.com/my-confidence-cracked-in-the-bistro-du-vin-burger/#comment-1517">Greg</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for the report, Greg. That&#8217;s happy news.</p>
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		By: Greg		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 12:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Went for the BdV burger last night (we&#039;ve started doing our own Burger Mondays working through your top 10 list) - and I&#039;m glad to report that it was nothing like the one above. It was very moist - medium rare and very tasty. One of the group commented that it &quot;tasted like well chopped steak&quot;. No peppercorns found either. 

Not cheap, but very good. 

Just have to get through the other 9 now :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Went for the BdV burger last night (we&#8217;ve started doing our own Burger Mondays working through your top 10 list) &#8211; and I&#8217;m glad to report that it was nothing like the one above. It was very moist &#8211; medium rare and very tasty. One of the group commented that it &#8220;tasted like well chopped steak&#8221;. No peppercorns found either. </p>
<p>Not cheap, but very good. </p>
<p>Just have to get through the other 9 now 🙂</p>
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		By: nick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 17:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My BdV burger was fine, albeit too large, eaten about 10 days ago. It certainly wasn&#039;t dry as my shirt sleeves can testify, nor were there any peppercorns. You may have been unlucky. It happens even though it shouldn&#039;t. Even the Fat Duck once poisoned its customers I believe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My BdV burger was fine, albeit too large, eaten about 10 days ago. It certainly wasn&#8217;t dry as my shirt sleeves can testify, nor were there any peppercorns. You may have been unlucky. It happens even though it shouldn&#8217;t. Even the Fat Duck once poisoned its customers I believe.</p>
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		By: Daniel Young		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Young]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://youngandfoodish.com/my-confidence-cracked-in-the-bistro-du-vin-burger/#comment-1513&quot;&gt;Bret&lt;/a&gt;.

Bret - This new cooking process WAS being applied at the Bistro du Vin on St John Street, but I&#039;ve been informed by the restaurant that they&#039;ve rethought this policy and want me to return to retry the burger.  I&#039;ll investigate and got back to you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://youngandfoodish.com/my-confidence-cracked-in-the-bistro-du-vin-burger/#comment-1513">Bret</a>.</p>
<p>Bret &#8211; This new cooking process WAS being applied at the Bistro du Vin on St John Street, but I&#8217;ve been informed by the restaurant that they&#8217;ve rethought this policy and want me to return to retry the burger.  I&#8217;ll investigate and got back to you.</p>
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		By: right_writes		</title>
		<link>https://youngandfoodish.com/my-confidence-cracked-in-the-bistro-du-vin-burger/#comment-1514</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[right_writes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I suppose the important question to ask these health fascists is... How many &quot;consumers&quot; (I hate that word!) have died eating a properly prepared burger?

We had a very similar issue with eggs, for about ten years after Edwina Currie made her erronious statement about salmonella inside them... (an impossibility), wherever one went outside of one&#039;s own kitchen eggs were like leather and completely inedible.

Anyway, back to the point about medium rare burgers, I was once quite ill and in a high dependency ward in a London hospital, across the way from me was a young girl, who was very sick... Her story went thus, she worked for the police and was working late one night, she hadn&#039;t eaten at all that day, but when she left work went to the nearest McDonalds and bought a MacSomethingorother... A couple of hours later she started to suffer stomach cramps, and this went on for a few days and then subsided... Then they came back and she ended up opposite me, where she had just had 90% of her gut removed... She died, she was 22! But at least the MacSomethingorother was properly cooked.

As I always say... (being fluent in Latin)... Caveat f**king emptor!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose the important question to ask these health fascists is&#8230; How many &#8220;consumers&#8221; (I hate that word!) have died eating a properly prepared burger?</p>
<p>We had a very similar issue with eggs, for about ten years after Edwina Currie made her erronious statement about salmonella inside them&#8230; (an impossibility), wherever one went outside of one&#8217;s own kitchen eggs were like leather and completely inedible.</p>
<p>Anyway, back to the point about medium rare burgers, I was once quite ill and in a high dependency ward in a London hospital, across the way from me was a young girl, who was very sick&#8230; Her story went thus, she worked for the police and was working late one night, she hadn&#8217;t eaten at all that day, but when she left work went to the nearest McDonalds and bought a MacSomethingorother&#8230; A couple of hours later she started to suffer stomach cramps, and this went on for a few days and then subsided&#8230; Then they came back and she ended up opposite me, where she had just had 90% of her gut removed&#8230; She died, she was 22! But at least the MacSomethingorother was properly cooked.</p>
<p>As I always say&#8230; (being fluent in Latin)&#8230; Caveat f**king emptor!</p>
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		By: Bret		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bret]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 17:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey Daniel,

Do you know if this new cooking process is being applied (perhaps more recently since you&#039;ve last been there) to their St. John st location as well?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Daniel,</p>
<p>Do you know if this new cooking process is being applied (perhaps more recently since you&#8217;ve last been there) to their St. John st location as well?</p>
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		By: Daniel Jakes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Jakes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 15:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I must have had several hundred Medium and Rare Burgers in my time and never have I felt ill as a result, (and a lot of these are from the tiny &#039;Kitchens&#039; in Paris that you pass on your way to the toilet upstairs and try not to look in through the serving hatch so it doesn&#039;t put you off your food!)

I would not pay for either of those especially the one prepared by the &#039;Exec-Chef&#039; and never return...I have always had perfectly cooked Burgers from St Johns st...

Plus I dont like it when the Stack of Lettuce rivals the thickness of the Patty...Oh Dear...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must have had several hundred Medium and Rare Burgers in my time and never have I felt ill as a result, (and a lot of these are from the tiny &#8216;Kitchens&#8217; in Paris that you pass on your way to the toilet upstairs and try not to look in through the serving hatch so it doesn&#8217;t put you off your food!)</p>
<p>I would not pay for either of those especially the one prepared by the &#8216;Exec-Chef&#8217; and never return&#8230;I have always had perfectly cooked Burgers from St Johns st&#8230;</p>
<p>Plus I dont like it when the Stack of Lettuce rivals the thickness of the Patty&#8230;Oh Dear&#8230;</p>
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		By: Daniel Young		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Young]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 07:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://youngandfoodish.com/my-confidence-cracked-in-the-bistro-du-vin-burger/#comment-1509&quot;&gt;Becs&lt;/a&gt;.

Becs - Teething problems? That might apply to the crack or the peppercorns, yes. But pre-salting or pre-cooking are another matter. If you do go back to try the burger please report back. I hope you are right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://youngandfoodish.com/my-confidence-cracked-in-the-bistro-du-vin-burger/#comment-1509">Becs</a>.</p>
<p>Becs &#8211; Teething problems? That might apply to the crack or the peppercorns, yes. But pre-salting or pre-cooking are another matter. If you do go back to try the burger please report back. I hope you are right.</p>
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		By: Ian		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 02:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well the FSA advice on cooking of burgers has been in place since 1998 - they advise burgers be cooked to a temperature of at least 70C for two minutes. The only thing that could have changed is the recent e-coli outbreak making companies more sensitive. So the only safe way to make a medium rare burger is to sous vide it. I&#039;ve seen a few vids of people doing it on the internet and as much as I&#039;m a fan of the wonders of sous vide it doesn&#039;t seem right for the burger.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the FSA advice on cooking of burgers has been in place since 1998 &#8211; they advise burgers be cooked to a temperature of at least 70C for two minutes. The only thing that could have changed is the recent e-coli outbreak making companies more sensitive. So the only safe way to make a medium rare burger is to sous vide it. I&#8217;ve seen a few vids of people doing it on the internet and as much as I&#8217;m a fan of the wonders of sous vide it doesn&#8217;t seem right for the burger.</p>
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